Foreman's style was designed to catch and kill and was not the style that Louis fought. Eddie Futch said Louis would win. Ali avenged this loss twice by decision and KO. I do not see Louis scoring a KO over Ali.In the rematch Louis was once again floored and trailing on points before he KO'd  Walcott in round 11. To suggest Louis would chase Ali down like Frazier did is to suggest Louis would fight a style that he didn't use his entire career.Foreman was one fighter who did effectively cut-off the ring against Ali but in their fight the ring was only 16 foot square, much smaller than the standard sized ring Ali and Louis would have fought in. These fighter's combined records at the time were 101-1 with 85 KO's. Jack Blackburn's in Louis' corner with Freddie Brown. Arthur Donovan the third man. Bill Ross Ali KO'd Liston and Foreman and was decisioned by Frazier 6 months after returning from his 3 1/2 year exile. In Ali's 6 combined fights with these greats he went 5-1 scoring 4 KO's. Clearly Walcott pales in comparison to Ali.With trainer Angelo Dundee predicting a 4th round KO, Ali chose not to throw a meaningful punch until the 4th and when he did he floored Folley with a single right hand. For these reasons I do not see Louis effectively cutting off the ring on Ali.A Louis knockdown would most likely have to be in the championship rounds as this was the only time Ali was floored in his peak years. Joe Frazier entraîna également sa fille Jackie Frazier-Lyde dont, ironie du sort, la seule défaite fut concédée à Laila Ali, la fille de Mohamed Ali le 8 juin 2001. I am 54 and have been a boxing fan since my teens. If Louis caught him like Cooper did, he'd have a better chance of finishing him, sure, but we all know how good Ali's chin was. If Walcott was a late bloomer he entered his prime by losing his first 4 title tries before going on to a 2-6 record in 8 title fights scoring 1 KO and being KO'd 3 times. Louis won the title with an 8th round KO.

Louis took short steps when moving forward and looked to work off the jab but did not pressure opponents in the manner that Frazier did. TM & © 2020 BoxingScene. For most of that time I would have predicted that Ali would have beaten Louis hands down by either a unanimous decision or a late round knock out. It shouldn't be when you consider that Walcott at 33 was the same age as Louis. Think Henry Cooper except with more time left in the round and a hell of a lot more power. Louis is 9-1 or 8-2 (once again if you consider Walcott I a loss) with 4 KO's and 1 KO loss. All Rights Reserved. See more ideas about Joe louis, Louis, Black history.

Louis by comparison took small shuffling steps and generally followed mobile opponents like Conn, Bob Pastor and Walcott . Louis never defeated a top ten all-time great heavyweight.Both fighters are closely matched in the late rounds. IMO Louis was about 6'1.5"-6'1.75" - and Ali often didn't seem to hold the advantage a 6'3" should've held over over Joe - though they were often photographed with Ali in thin heeled boxing shoes and Joe in street shoes - some photos they look quite close while in others Ali appears clearly taller - usually when both were in street shoes. He couldn't do it again; the first fight took something out of him and he was never the same fighter again.Ali TKO 12 Louis could not handle good boxers and Ali was the best. Six of Ali's decision wins from 1971-74 are over 12 rounds as Muhammad was not champion at the time. I believe a young Joe Louis knocks out a young Cassius Clay with a precise right hand in the early rounds. I agree with those who say that Ali's mobility would be the key, and when assessing the Norton fights, that wasn't the fleet footed Ali of his greatest performances. Louis was not known for a sustained body attack, foot speed or cutting off the ring in the manner that Frazier effectively utilized against Ali.Historians point out that Ali was dropped by Cooper and thus was vulnerable to being KO'd by Louis. Six ounce gloves. As part of a tournament to determine the greatest heavyweight of All Time Round 2. A mandatory 8 count was not in effect during these years which means that these fighters upon getting off the deck could be immediately attacked by Louis without being given the grace of 8 seconds to clear their heads. Never getting hit with a meaningful punch, Ali toyed with, connected at will and KO'd an 85 fight 14 year veteran who had been undefeated in 4 years. Consider the words of Zora Folley:Thank you for the well articulated comment on my article. Clearly this Ali was not yet at his peak physically but would blossom as a fighter the following year with his title winning effort against Liston.Louis is often given credit as an adaptable fighter yet in Conn II, Louis still didn't actively pressure Billy but waited for Conn to come to him and leave an opening as he did in their first fight. If Ali was floored by Louis he would likely get up as he did against Frazier as Muhammad had unbelievable recuperative abilities.Clearly, many of Joe's opponents were able to get up and continue fighting after being floored. Ali in his 30's took Foreman and Frazier's bombs. Louis was a patient counterpunching boxer/puncher who looked to lure his opponent in and capitalize on openings created by their errors.

Peu importe que ce soit le Mike Tyson des années 80, Mohamed Ali, Joe Louis, Lennox Lewis, George Foreman, Ken Norton, Rocky Marciano, Floyd Patterson, Gene Tunney, Jem Mace, John L. Sullivan. This speaks volumes when suggesting Louis would KO Ali. I have to pick Ali to win a decision over 15 rounds, but he has to fight the perfect fight, if he makes a mistake as others did with Louis, he will pay dearly. Two judges, one from Louis' time and one from Ali's, with Donovan scoring as well.I honestly think that this is the most discussed topic in the history of BoxRec.I'm going to hedge my bets on this one. Therefore, so would I.There were many interesting articles and interviews done with Louis after Ali won the championship from Liston, mainly because of Ali not entering into the Armed forces and Ali making statements that Louis was something of an Uncle Tom, etc. This was Ali at his peak. [email]wross1@cogeco.ca[/email] Was Joe's age a factor? Foreman also took big steps towards his opponents escape route which allowed him to trap opponents like Norton, Ali and Joe King Roman on the ropes. This would not be a great contest.Agreed, I would never say easy. Comparatively the championship rounds is when Louis scored his least amount of knockdowns.