It was also the last year they were made in Boulder, CO. - They moved to Longmont, CO. in 1978 and continued the alphabet dating code for another 15 years until they were sold at auction to Camillus in 1991. An "I" version would be from 1985, the year after Coleman took over. We've sent you an email to confirm your subscription. I used the Forester first, while I was fresh. Original Price 4,063,793 Recently Added Knives by Maker Advanced Search Sell Your Knives. (39% off), Sale Price 3,722,167 (45% off), Sale Price 2,955,665 In 1911, H. N. Platts, was able to draw on his extensive friendships and family connections in the cutlery world to start Western States Cutlery and Manufacturing of Boulder Colorado. 1 month ago on ebay.com. If you don't have an account, create one here. Is it possible that the ones you think are chrome plated are STAINLESS STEEL and the ones you think are not chromed are regular "carbon steel"??? But I feel like your chart is about as accurate a depiction as one is likely to find. I guess I have been lucky over the past 35 years of collecting. Western started putting the year letter on their knives in 1977 with an "A". Western started putting the year letter on their knives in 1977 with an "A". He designed it as a hunting knife and gave it to James for protection after his brother had been shot in a fight. $110. (45% off), Sale Price 2,068,966 Sold. The chrome plated ones were in really nice shape other then some chipping to the chrome and handle wear and maybe minor pitting. #7. (50% off), Sale Price 1,896,552 IMHO there are two problems here. IMHO many more variations on these knives also fall into the proper Vietnam time period. I've never had the Bowie, but older Westerns are fantastic knives. Charlie, Teslleta: Here it is. Chrome is very hard and resist a lot of the normal scratching that would show on other knives. 1,666,256, 3,029,557 $75.30, $188.24 Thanks GIRLYmann! Learn more. Hey zzyzzogeton thanks for all the info its so hard to find good info on early Bowies but I think I have a correction for you, on Western Bowie #5 Version 1 stainless steel Bowie - It should be blade marked not guard marked WESTERN BOWIE on top of STAINLESS STEEL on top of U.S.A. markings on only one side. It's easy! (25% off), Sale Price 1,218,966 This knife has a stock number of S-649. NOTE: This is NOT AN AUCTION. I Ship Worldwide. So their history is rather murky, to say the least. (70% off), Sale Price 899,015 The ones brought home were kept, or given to some relative. I've been wanting a V44 pattern for years. Covert Knife. As a bowie knife, this was designed for hunting and survival, but as a high-priced Buck knife with a few dozen handle materials to choose from and the option to add a display box and an engraving it makes a pretty stellar gift and display piece. Yea it is an old thread. Original Price 6,157,389 14 5/8 inches overall. Email with Questionsor Offers: sandersknives@gmail.com. Pics would help to identify the knife. Cut off the top guard years ago. I also believe that the guard marked "W49's" would have been made during the 1970's but prior to 1977 when the alphabetical date code started. It may not display this or other websites correctly. There are at least 4 more variations in knife markings and wooden handle type from then to 1977 when Western started date coding their knives on the blade. I'm curious to know what year Western first manufactured the W49? It's the 30s to 76 that is sometimes enigmatic. I think the pre-Coleman ones - at least some of them - had real Cocobolo handles rather than laminated wood scales. I turned the log over, picked up the W49 and finished chopping through the log in eight minutes. No, I never wrote it up. When Coleman bought Western in 1984, they continued the practice, up through M. When Camillus bought Western from Coleman in 1991, they dropped the practice. Nothing to do with the Western Bowies, but included for posterity since people keep calling the Bushman a "V44"- These knives (the #18 and clones) are incorrectly called the V44 Marine Raider Bowie knife. Original Price 4,205,911 by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:44 am, Post You've already signed up for some newsletters, but you haven't confirmed your address. At first only a jobbing business, by 1920 construction and machinery purchases were underway to begin manufacture of knives. 1 In Stock $34.97 More Info For Sale By: GSPTOPDOG Coleman Western 954 Double Lock with box and pouch (1989) 1 In Stock $70.00 More Info For Sale By: LDF Knives Western USA S-532 "A" Wood Westlock Lockback 1977 1 In Stock $95.00 More Info For Sale By: Knives Templar It was also the last year that Western manufactured their knives in Boulder, Colorado. Original Price 3,029,557 They sharpen up like a razor and I need to make heavy duty sheaths for them. But once you mod 'em they lose all collector's value. 1,812,130, 7,248,225 com, usedvictoria.com are popular sites for selling items in Canada. (20% off), Sale Price 2,370,466 Sellers looking to grow their business and reach more interested buyers can use Etsys advertising platform to promote their items. Facebook, Tags: Bagwell-Bowie, Bowie, Vintage, Western-Cutlery-W49. Orsold or pawned to shops in Fayettenam! I had a new one in the box a few years ago and let it go too cheap for 100.00 at a gun show so I could purchase something else. (70% off), Sale Price 2,135,468 They are the older high carbon blades. That makes it a pretty serious chopper in my book. Looking for a real knife? It was also the last year they were made in Boulder, CO. You are using an out of date browser. Let me know. Jul 5, 2013. The blade's spine is five . The marking are very important. I didn't really like it so I gave it to my brother. (45% off), Sale Price $21.96 1,183,432, 2,958,284 Original Price 2,216,502 It is stamped "WESTERN BOULDER / COLO. USA on one side and BOWIE on the other. 2,955,665, 9,852,217 (70% off), Sale Price 2,500,000 Bowie Knife. 203 pages of Case and Western Cutlery history from the time they were in the east through the move west to Boulder Colorado and after. $84.99, $169.99 $86.70, $289.00 I think I read somewhere that when Camillus bought the name in 1991, they moved production to the Camillus factory in New York. Mine probably dates back farther than yours (before Coleman bought Western) and the vanadium steel they used back then was excellent. All have positives all have negatives oh to decide i still have the one i bought back in the '70's i wore every where butt work. Top Rated Seller. $89.17, $297.22 Inspect in Game. We've got Bowie knives of all shapes and sizes at Knife Depot. Eventually purchased by Camillus in 1991, Western continued until Camillus expired in 2007. If you come across a chrome plated Western Bowie it was probably plated for jungle use. Charlie, http://img11.No_outside_hosting.us/g/cblziwcgkkgrhqyokpme0un.jpg/. Original leather sheath. But I believe I can give you some good advice. I did it out of personal curiosity when I got my Forester. by kootenay joe Wed May 02, 2018 4:05 pm, Return to Western Cutlery Collector's Forum, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. I just scored a copy of Harvey Platts' "The Knife Makers Who Went West" from 1978. Captcha failed to load. RARE Vintage Western 2 Blade #691 TRAPPER BONE Handle NICE ! My biggest concern with their "chopping" ability is the very thin edge. Thanks! 1978 was "B" and so on. Thanks to Tom Williams who had it in with some old Western documents. (70% off), Sale Price $184.50 Blade edge is still quite sharp, and blade has been old period cleaned and is . One must handle this knife to appreciate the quality. 1964 to late 1965/early 1966. zzyzzogeton, thanks so much for your reply. Would be great for batoning as it had a very heavy blade of about 6 inches long. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Knife_Company. Is that a bad thing that it is not a Western Knife but a Coleman instead? Who has the knowledge for this situation? i have one i bought late 80's i think 60 bucks otd, got it cuase a buddy had one and he loved it. Original Price $164.99 Thanks for all the information! Is it uncommon to come across a Bowie with that "been there and done that" look? (75% off), Sale Price 1,722,414 Thin edges can chop without damage, you just have to keep the blade straight so the force of the swing is aligned with the edge. by WesternBowieAxe Wed May 02, 2018 3:11 am, Post There is a version of the Western Bowie that appears in the 1968 catalog. I was surprised by the thinness of the spine. Original Price $28.00 I believe that it provides a fairly accurate chronology of the Western W49 Bowie. My grandfather carried this one for 50 years: You must log in or register to reply here. Does shopping on Etsy help support small businesses? (15% off), Sale Price $84.99 The appearance of items in the individual listings may vary slightly from the one above. (45% off), Sale Price 1,056,736 Turning off personalized advertising opts you out of these sales. Learn more in our Privacy Policy., Help Center, and Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy. $77.64, $91.34 Or am I missing something? This information will be very helpful in my search. Sale Price $120.00 2,500,000, 3,571,429 Very few guys that I can recall actually had theirs. The W47 measures 12" from tip to hilt, W45 measures 9" and the 43 or mini measures 6 1/2". (60% off), Sale Price $86.70 This Auction is for an Authentic Western Boulder U.S.A W49 "M" Bowie Knife w/Wooden Plaque - Circa 1840.1977 was the first year that Western knives started using the alphabet, starting with the letter "A", to date code their knives. Bowie Knives - Knife Depot Looking for a real knife? (70% off), Sale Price $135.00 Well used and somewhat pitted since I got them used. (45% off), Sale Price 3,047,783 $295.00 eBay 1,025,862, 1,206,897 joe. Because of our large inventory (over 10,000 knives in stock), your order will ship quickly - often the same day. L Lenka Kuerkov Cool Knives La Forge Lame Film Props Knife Handles Y Yves Tactical Swords Blacksmithing Knives Bowie Knives (60% off), Sale Price 4,173,623 In 1838 Rezin P. Bowie, brother of Alamo hero James Bowie claimed that he made the first Bowie knife while the Bowies lived in Avoyelles Parish, Louisiana. Bowie Knife Cold Steel Fixed Blade Knife Knives And Swords When this U.S. Army Ranger was 10 he made a knife. Please check your browser settings or contact your system administrator. The other three were heavly pitted from the jungle. Send me exclusive offers, unique gift ideas, and personalized tips for shopping and selling on Etsy. But you know that. Public collections can be seen by the public, including other shoppers, and may show up in recommendations and other places. The knife on the right in my picture above is an example of the 3rd variant. See all reviews . sogmanjoe, Powered by, Badges | It could have been a special order as there were Western Bowies ordered by 5th Special Forces with blade inscriptions. Weight for the weight weirdos is 1 lb 4 ounces knife only. I have owned alot of these knives and in fact the picture is of my knife. Depending on the exact age of the knives, they may be very good steel. Original Price $91.34 Also they produced the stock number (649) a bowie with a handle made of synthetic stag for the handle. The Western W-49 is made of 1095 carbon steel. The letters A through O can be seen on their knives depending upon the year of manufacture during the years '77 to '91. Learn more. Frequently bought together + Total price: To see our price, add these items to your cart. 2,603,550, 4,733,728 It is guard marked:WESTERN BOULDER / COLO. USA on the mark side and BOWIE on the pile side. Buy now. Camillus discontinued the use of date codes. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:45 am, Post by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:40 pm, Post Create an account or login in order to post a comment. The ones marked W49 with large handle bolts are questionable to me. $148.00, $185.00 In 1978 the company moved to Longmont, CO. Just when you think you have them figured out one turns up that does not fit the mold. I own one which is believed to be the 3rd variant of the Western W49 Bowie knife. If you are not familiar with that wood, it is in the same class as white oak. Original Price 3,448,276 But theres always the chance that more documents are yet to surface that will clear things up. (30% off), Sale Price 2,093,350 Original Price 6,896,552 2,093,350, 4,186,946 Check out the latest price. The straight-edge knife is fitted with a 7-inch blade and. Designed by Jim Bowie and fabricated first by Jesse Clifft, the almost 10-inch-long blade had a flat spine and no guard between its blade and handle. They all have heavy use and both have the sheaths replaced after they rotted away. Original Price 7,248,225 Back in the early, and late 70's, all the guys I approached for any type of knife, especially SOG knives, said they left them in Vietnam. Original Price $185.00 1,637,685, 2,339,655 91/4"LONG BLADE,TOTAL KNIFE LENGTH IS 14 1/2", BLADE WIDTH IS 2" & WEIGHS 1# 14 OZ IN SHETH. Thanks for stepping in, Sac. Consistently earned 5-star reviews, shipped orders on time, and replied quickly to messages, Looks like you already have an account! They made several matching that description, but the most common I see are the 8" G46-8 or L46-8. Buy It Now. I've mentioned my love for my old w49 several times here. The letters used start with "A" for 1977 and go on to "0" for 1991 when Camillus bought the rights to Western at auction. Both have stacked leather handles, and 8" Marble's Ideal style blades. (40% off), Sale Price 2,359,467 Terms of Service. With powerful tools and services, along with expert support and education, we help creative entrepreneurs start, manage, and scale their businesses. Original Price 2,997,044 The 4th variant, I believe, is similarly guard marked and stamped "W49" instead of Bowie, like the 3rd variant, on the pile side. This massive knife was used in early Vietnam era it measures 15" from tip to hilt. Fill out the requested information. The sheath for this knife is also unique in my opinion. And, especially thanks for posting it here! Its 11 and 3/8 inches full tang steel blade is sharp right out of the box and will come in handy when performing a wide variety of tasks. This practice was continued after Western was sold to the Coleman Co. in 1984 and goes on until 1991. The seller might still be able to personalize your item. Sign up for a new account in our community. 1,218,966, 2,216,502 (25% off), Sale Price $77.64 By Original Price 1,243,264 Thanks for all the Western Bowie related info, catalog links, etc. The knife had been made by his brother, Rezin, a year prior. Comes with the original sheath, has two notches cutout at top, not sure why, but been there a while. Search 284 Tramonti di Sopra local furniture stores to find the best furniture and accessory company for your project. (30% off), Sale Price 1,183,432 Original Price $150.00 (10% off), Sale Price 4,617,980 Vintage Western U.S.A W49 Bowie Knife Pre-Owned C $337.45 Top Rated Seller or Best Offer from United States Sponsored Extremely rare, Western Cutlery, model W49 Bowie fighting knife C $607.40 or Best Offer from United States Sponsored Vintage Large Western Bowie Knife W49 F Pre-Owned C $337.44 Buy It Now +C $27.52 shipping estimate Shipping Discounts Available for Multiple Items Purchased from Sanders Knives: If this item is purchased with another item from Sanders Knives that has a shipping cost of $8.50 or more, standard shipping to US addresses for this item will be discounted to $1.00. (15% off), Sale Price 1,812,130 Average depth of cut with the same swing was almost a half inch. By: Westmark Knives Date Added: 02/22/2018 $175.00 Buy Now. by kootenay joe Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:03 pm, Post Damascus Steel: Is My Knife Real or Fake. Try using a different browser or disabling ad blockers. Vintage Western folding pocket knife. The W47 measures 12" from tip to hilt, W45 measures 9" and the 43 or mini measures 6 1/2". Tep. At least I know the knife was made between 1977 and 1980, thanks for the help! (45% off), Sale Price 1,637,685 And the sales receipt is proof of age. Check out completed auctions on the 'Bay for an idea of value. The Bowie knife began as a gift of love from one brother to another, but the weapon proved invaluable in the famous 1827 Sandbar . The second problem is defining the Vietnam time period for these knives and other equipment. Etsy is powered by 100% renewable electricity. The Bowie knife also played a prominent role in western lore. The one in the picture with the chrome plated blade came from a vet and I have the documentation and a photo of him wearing the knife in Vietnam. Jim Bowie, in his brief lifetime, was as famous as any American then drawing breath. (15% off), Sale Price 4,256,897 Western Bowie 1984. (50% off), Sale Price 1,516,995 (45% off), Sale Price 2,422,280 Craftsmanship . Try using a different browser or disabling ad blockers. Some of the technologies we use are necessary for critical functions like security and site integrity, account authentication, security and privacy preferences, internal site usage and maintenance data, and to make the site work correctly for browsing and transactions. The way you set up your knife photos is inspiring. According to Western's 1986 catalog they started producing the W49 in 1964. Even though we were young and we knew every thing. Many a GI bought a Western model at the Base Exchange to use in Vietnam. They come all sorts of ways. With the above in mind at this time I would advise you to look for knives with one of the following markings: This is generally excepted as the first variation of the W49, This is the next version of blade marking the W49. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive. The next 3 versions of the Western Bowie are identical in material and construction. Originally designed by Col. James Bowie, a Bowie knife describes any large sheath knife. The Western W-49 is made of 1095 carbon steel. An old and proven friend. Original Price 1,898,817 I'd sure like to find one and would pay good money to acquire it. Now I see them going for very good money. I cut the hilt down took some belly off the blade, had a sheath made and for a total investment of $40.00 got a knife that has served me well. Its something for me to shoot for. $299.99 eBay SUPER RARE KABAR HOBO PERFECT HANDLES KNIFE, FORK, SPOON 1923 TO 1037 $875.00 eBay Case XX USA 10 Dot 1970 5254 Trapper Genuine Stag Handles Unused N Mint Specks $345.00 eBay RARE VINTAGE CASE XX REDBONE SCOUT UTILITY KNIFE 6445 R 1940-64 "NICE!!! I took it, the aforementioned W49 and a Case Alamo Bowie out in the yard and started chopping on a old log of locust wood I'd had laying around for a couple of years. I hope this helps, Brad? NOTHING MADE IN CHINA!!! "Western" and "Coleman" are both brand names; which is it? Handle has the brass pins and rosewood handle. This traditionally Set where you live, what language you speak, and the currency you use. Measures 15-1/4" overall with a 10" blade. Heres my question. It has alot of documentation and looks good. For International Buyers, Please Email before purchasing to determine the actuall shipping cost. Create an Account Stay up to date withYour Favorite Knife Makers. The 4th variant, I believe, is similarly guard marked and stamped "W49" instead of Bowie, like the 3rd variant, on the pile side. 1,912,315, 2,249,754 1,708,876, 1,898,817 The most common by far is the bowie with the wooden handle the (W49). I am trying to decide between the Western, Case, Ontario, or the new Remington. 899,015, 2,997,044 Camillus closed it doors for the last time in April of 2007. Early productions blades were made of carbon steel, later productions are constructed of a high polished stainless. 1,896,552, 3,448,276 Charlie, How easy or difficult is it to come across a Western Bowie that actually looks like it may have seen use during the Vietnam War. Average depth of cut with a full swing was about a quarter inch. AH, I was unaware of this point. Western made at least two different stock numbered bowies during the Vietnam time period. After pulling out his Bowie knife, Mick exclaimed, "THAT'S a knife!" That helps narrow it down! The W49 is the 9 1/2" "V44" type with the immense S-curve guard and laminated rosewood slab handles. (70% off). Take full advantage of our site features by enabling JavaScript. One is the lack of surviving documents from the Western Cutlery Co. . I am glad that I resisted the SOF mods back in the 80's. Original Price 2,460,591 SHINY CRAFTS | Large Bowie Knife With Sheath 18 Inch Mirror Polished D2 Stainless Steel Crocodile Dundee Knife - Razor Sharp Custom Bowie Knife For Men, Outdoor, Hunting Knife . There was a problem subscribing you to this newsletter. Take this Hibben bowie knife with you into the most untamed environments and use it under the harshest conditions The bowie has a keenly sharp, 14" stainless steel, clip point blade with a high-polish finish and a beefy profile The red-brown, natural-look wooden handle is complemented by a gold-plated blade catcher and handguard This will differ depending on what options are available for the item. (70% off), Sale Price 3,263,547 Western Bowie Knife (1 - 40 of 159 results) Price ($) Shipping All Sellers 16-Inch Old Western Bowie Knife D2 Steel Fixed Blade Wooden Handle / Leather Knife Sheath scorpionhubus (30) $135.00 $150.00 (10% off) FREE shipping Tombstone Ike / Billy Clanton Bowie knife custom-made Hand grind in Texas carbon 1985 steel antler Handle made to order 1 week Gil Hibben 65TH Anniversary Old West Bowie Knife And Sheath - Stainless Steel Blade, Wooden Handle, Gold-Plated Guard $109.99 Western made at least two different stock numbered "bowies" during the Vietnam time period. The facts are that the last two years of the war The U.S. was not sending in much of anything into the country as far as manpower and equipment. Value for money . I bought one at a Sheriff's auction about 20 years ago. WESTERN BOULDER / COLO. USA on one side and BOWIE on the other. The 4th variant also has larger pins. Etsy uses cookies and similar technologies to give you a better experience, enabling things like: Detailed information can be found in Etsys Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy and our Privacy Policy. This massive knife was used in early Vietnam era it measures 15" from tip to hilt. If you come across a chrome plated Western Bowie it was probably plated for jungle use. How easy or difficult is it to come across a Western Bowie that actually looks like it may have seen use during the Vietnam War. Can't see it in picture but blade in engraved with soldiers name and 69 - 70 Vietnam. $135.00, $150.00 View Etsys Privacy Policy. It should show jungle use. Made in the USA!!! Late 1800s antique British US Western style Bowie knife marked IXL. The online community of knife collectors, A Knife Family Forged in Steel, 1977 was the first year that Western knives started using the alphabet, starting with the letter "A", to date code their knives. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:47 am, Post I was so ticked at the time I never tried chopping with it again. This Knife is available for immediate purchase by using the Add To Cart button to the right and then by following the instructions. $22.40, $28.00 IMHO its hard to link gear made after 1972 to being In Country without being attached to some strong provenance.
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